Evil Bob Campaigns

Right, we have the company names now. Thanks for those. Nice sounding names.

Now we need some squad names for each. We were asked to come up with these afterall. I nominate this thread to discuss them, though additional threads may be necessary considering the number of squads. It may be best to discuss each company's squads in different threads. What do you all think?

I would like to discuss the north (bushi/fighting) company primarily in this thread therefore.

We have 4 squads. So as of the time of writing we have...

Suzaku Company of the South
Toku Shokami - Chui (Contender)
Kitsuki Masakaze - Gunso
Kakita Miki - Nikutai
Mirumoto Asahi - Hohei
Yoritomo Amano - Hohei
Yoritomo Virendra - Hohei

Who is whose nikutai? Who is in each squad? What does each squad do? Perhaps a cavalary squad, a light infantry/archery squad, a heavy and medium infantry squad and a reserve or assault squad with specialists - e.g. Siege engineers, polearm masters, tacticians? A squad that guards the chui and taisa? Discuss! I think it might be nice for Bob to use these discussions to finalise matters.

I have a few suggestions for Masakaze's squad.

Erinuki - Elite/the very best
Seikou - Success
Chousen - Defiant
Yousai - Fortress
Osorezu - No fear

Something like this would be fitting I reckon! Badass squad go ^_-

I'm in charge of the bustin' heads and drinkin' booze squad.

That's cool, but it needs a proper name Amano. Which company is yours in? And why don't you have gunso then? :P

I'm actually in Genbu so.....

It's a secret squad. ;)

Well, you can change Shu!

It must be so secret I haven't heard of it eh? Alright. I'll call it the cockroach squad :P :P :P

If you want to stick with Genbu Shu, it's cool. But think of a squad name!

I'm also Suzaku company, but am Gunso. Plenty of Gunso it seems!

Well, are there any names you feel your squad should have Heisuke?

"The Rainbow Poptart Cat" company, but jokes aside, not really no.

I could fit in any squad, as my military role would either be yojimbo to the gunso, or some sort of skirmisher/mobile squad. I don't have any real specific role to play on the battlefield except finding enemy officers and murdering them in duels.

Mmmm, we should talk Miki. I am thinking of doing a shock/mobile squad as my niche.

What company are you? We're all swapping around so I'm very confused now.

But yeah... a lion commander would be such delicious irony. By all means... talk to evil bob. I'll be Nikutai to whoever I'm assigned; since I don't know how we are determining this...

I will probably the South company, if one is needed. It would just require the moving of points about.  

The fluff can always be pushed even further: constellations have names for their specific mansions, 7 per constellation. Check wiki.

For Genbu it is:Dipper, Ox, Girl, Emptiness, Rooftop, Encampment, Wall. But since we only have one squad, I\'d go with Snake Squad, since it\'s the other animal depicted on Genbu motif.

And I\'d call my sub-squad Snake Eyes.

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^.^

Changed the topic name, since the content of this thread seems specific to South Company.
There are four companies in South Company that the PCs can join.
You should figure out which Gunso command which squad and who assists each Gunso.

Not all Squads will have a PC Gunso and Nikutai, so don't worry if not all the squads have one when we start the game.  Assume there is an NPC that takes those ranks.

After you figure out who is in charge of what, the Hohei (Privates, or rank and file) can choose which Gunso they serve and come up with a proper name/banner ect...

Edit: Or do it the opposite way, where like minded Hohei get together and say "Hey, lets all be in a squad."  Then they name the squad and a Gunso is assigned later.  Whichever you like.

I am Suzaku, but I do not know to what point are the Nikutai of other legions not allowed to be under the supervision of other Company Gunso. It depends on what Evil Bob says to be honest.

Sub-plot 1 says something important about this matter, Heisuke.  I would reference it when picking a Nikutai from another company to help you out.

Fair enough, though my character will be a rare breed. He values merit over petty concepts as "Being in the same legion".

Which Gunso need a Nikutai? And did we pick squads yet?

I want to be in third squad.

There. I decided.

Pffft... I need no silly squad-names.
All I need is an officer to advise from doing silly things.

Like disciplining his subordinates with a paddle.

Keep on topic guys.  I've cut the fat so people who need to pick a squad can follow the thread better.

Also, I'll be following this thread and updating the company list as decisions are made.  http://evilbob.fallenash.com/index.php?topic=359.0
So make them well and have fun everybody.

Wake is cavalry and very much a blunt tool of destruction (as far as combat is concerned at least) so any sane commander would not assign him to any squad based on stealth or subtlety. 

Otherwise stick me where you need me.

Stealth and Subtlety are my specialty. Politely explaining why you should surrender* is my excellence.



*"You see my Moto friend here? I suggest you acquiesce to our request. He is very sharp-tempered, and though his strategy is simple, it's very effective, and we have several dozen more behind him. Now please, be a good criminal and submit to imperial law."

Apparently nobody else wants to pick a squad...

I mean... it's not the end of the world...

I'm not sure how much to add. I don't think we need a squad of stealthy bushi, we have a whole company devoted to scouting. I'd like to see balance, with a squad of heavy infantry, a squad of medium, some cavalry, and a squad to fill in the gaps, perhaps archers. Though I'm thinking in a military mindset. I'll just go with the proverbial flow. Pick a card any card, I'll make sure you all get your milk and cookies, even if I have to choke a certain quartermaster to get them.  ;D

^

And honestly, I was waiting to see how things shook out. If everyone's in squad three and I'd already chosen squad two (or something), I'd be pretty lonely if squad two got told to go patrol the forest or something.

Well unless any of the commanding officers have any disagreement let's designate Squad 4 for Cavalry and stick me there.

Good idea Wake.

Right, squad 4 is cavalry. Both heavy and light. All cavalry all the time.

Other suggestions (please say yay or nay):

Squad 1 is heavy infantry. That's you Lion and Crabs! You are the blunt force!

Squad 2 is medium infantry and specialists. That's duelists, niten users, spear and naginata experts, other odd sorts. We hold the line and apply our individual skills to any problem. Yes, I would like to be your gunso!

Squad 3 is support/archers/reserves/tacticians/guards to the taisa's command unit and now the shireikan. Archers, bodyguards, other odd bodies, light infantry and perhaps shugenja that like to mix it up in melee - I am looking at Tamori shugenja with an itch to use kenjutsu - this squad is most appropriate for you.

Anyone got a better idea? Otherwise vote yes!

I'm still in Double Secret Probation Squad, where the alcoholic punchmeisters go.

Not just Lion and Crab, and neither of those Clans is limited to "only heavy infantry" in what their Clan schools have to offer. If you want to get technical about it, a Yoritomo bushi could be considered "heavy infantry" for the Mantis, while a Shiba bushi could be considered one for the Phoenix as well (and sometimes their Earth Tensai).   ;)

Command unit (and their guards, and tacticians) should be given their own squad, instead of lumping them in with support, imho. However, for sake of this game we can lump them all together.

Archers are support, don't need to be mentioned twice.

Reserves should be given their own squad (and really, we shouldn't have to worry about designating a squad of their own).

The only other thing I would suggest is waiting for Miki to see this suggestion, as she's already declared for the Third Squad, and afaik she's a duelist, but no one's guard.

So really:

First Squad: Heavy infantry

Second Squad: Light infantry (everyone that's not Heavy, Support or Cavalry)

Third Squad: Support (archers, shugenja, command staff and guards, Strategists*)

Fourth Squad: Cavalry

* I labeled it as "Strategists," because you can have a tactical knowledge of battle but yet not make major warfare decisions. Strategists are basically those that would advise the command staff as to the best course of action for a particular fight/terrain/battle/whatever. Basically, those tacticians that don't wish to see front line duty.

Those are called cowards!

But, on the actual topic, said breakdown works in my eyes.

Except there's still no squad for me, and I don't know how long I can keep up the Animal House Squad facade.

Well when all else fails we toss you in the light infantry to soak up arrows and hopefully kill a foe or two while doing so.  Otherwise you might want to clarify your talents :P

My talents include: Makin' movies, makin' songs and fightin' 'round the world!

Light infantry it is then :P

I only added the Lion and Crab bit as fluff. All Clans and even minor clans have some heavy infantry. And yes, of course the Lion and Crab don't just have that. It's just what they are best known for. Please do not take everything so literally, especially when it was meant to enthuse others rather than be some academic argument.

I don't want to get technical about it - I just want a decision to be reached.

If you want to be antsy :P - if you are wearing heavy armor you are heavy infantry. Even if you are a courtier >_<

I still think this South Company should all be capable of fighting. The scouts can be backup if necessary. Plus shugenja should only be here if they can stab or bash something. I therefore think labelling one squad's tacticians as those who want to avoid frontline duty is a bit dangerous. It's the Legion. What you want doesn't matter. If the squad is ordered into a breach, they damn well better storm the breach. If you're that good a tactician then you're an advisor to a chui, not some grunt.

Generally though, helpful comments. I think that's a useful division.

1. Heavy/assault infantry
2. Light and medium infantry - mobile troops
3. Support/specialists/reserves and archers!
4. Cavalry

I'll take Squad 1 as my assignment.

Thought you might. Squad 1 suits you. Now... NAME IT XD

I do have to name it no? "Squad 1"?

Our squad will not have a name. It's so tough and manly, that it takes the names of the squads we totally obliterate.

Ichi is one in Japanese. It can also mean "best" as in - WE ARE NUMBER ONE.

Perhaps you'd like that? I don't think Bob will be happy with us if we just name our squads numbers. Give them a bit more flavour. If you are so hard, give the squad a weak sounding name like "hana" (flower). Let the enemy rue the day they thought the flowers would be... heh... daisys...

Oh fine. I'll go squad 2.

Miki is a former Yojimbo though.

"Heisukegumi" does have a ring :P

I am afraid I don't have a squad either. I am a competent Archer, I suppose.

If you're Genbu (now North not South, cousin), there's little choice because the company has only, unless there's a way to pull out a dual membership.

Something-gumi could work. Can I suggest Yousai-gumi? Fortress group. Since you are the heavy infantry group?

I am, since nobody seems to be coming up with names or arguing, going to name squad 2 "Jouzu-gumi" or skillful group. Hell yeah.

Well it's a bit cliche but ikazuchi-gumi would work then for Squad 4 as far as my (very) limited Japanese goes

I like it Wake ^-^

And fail to indulge my ego?

Preposterous

I suppose we'll do something akin to this once we've got a few more people in the company  ;D

Yer ego's had enough strokin' and...

Cuddlin'.

How about the big lake they call gitchi-gumi?

Hello Kitty-gumi?

I am going to go on a killing spree in the Legion :(

*makes a note of putting Heisuke on the "Usual Suspects"-list*

Dakishimeru-gumi?

That sounds like a pillow book for those Crane girls who have seen too many Crane men...

How about picking a squad before naming them?

-squints-

Back on topic guys.

I find these new names for squads confusing...

You mean Crane men who have seen to many crane men.
And for Dakishimeru-gunso-sama

Aww my suggestions aren't too bad are they? You come up with some Miki!

They're not bad, but let's also keep the squad numbers for the memory impaired. *Derps* ???

Ahahah, well, by your picture and character gender, I believe you are actually a "Herp."

It took me way too long to figure that out. I think... I don't know...

Hmmm I think I should go to Akodo-sama's squad.  Or would we rather have the clans split up?

There are no Clans in the Legion. There are skills and trade, and I think you'd adapt excellently in my Assault Company.

Well only the Lion know how to use the Beastmasters effectively according to the Great Clans fluff.  It also says they rarely serve as front line assault troops.  Rarely, so not 'never'.  Quite happy to serve in this role, means the girls will get some exercise and not get fat over the Winter.

Glad to have you and your girls on board Matsu-san.

To quote the Gaijin Weird Al Yankovic, "Nobody's sure what I do here, and that's just fine with me"

I suppose I have some time to finish my story.

... *still unsure of which squad to be in*

I will volunteer for the Gunso of the Cav squad.

Of course you would. The philosophers say that one should never give a person who desires power any at all. I think, in your case, we might for once listen to them.

Seems everything is strack from my point of view. Looks like I was formally given the Chui position, and since it's getting closer to game time, I'll be posting more. I'm a good chui, I'll let the Gunso take care of things and trust that they'll make me look good.  ;D

hrm squad one seems to fit me best O.o I believe at least.

it would be that or squad two

Squad 2 is where it is at! The gunso is relaxed and easy going. Unless you like being drilled by a very strict Lion? I mean, he is alright off duty but... did you hear about the crazy Lion girl with actual lions following him about? :P

*stirring the pot*

After much consideration, I'll go with Squad 3.

EDIT: 3, I meant 3. @_@ Tired typing.

Crazy?   >:(

Matsu-san, ignore those remarks spawned out of envy. I am proud to have you and your girls in my squad.

As anyone should.

You posted your character had scars from them herself. Keeping two wild animals and using them to attack people in battle is crazy according to everyone but the Lion... and the Unicorn with their war dogs. But at least they are dogs and not war wolves or something.

And people think the Dragon are mad! Ha... *drinks invisible tea while resting one's legs in the air and talking to an imaginary friend* Isn't that right Jimmy?

Jimmy, please get the gunso to sign this paperwork. He'll never talk to me when he's having tea with you.

(http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2011/05/facebook_like_button_big.jpg)

Oh, thanks Jimmy - *signs paperwork*

*Bow* *Bow*

Until tomorrow, Jimmy.

<,<

This is supposed to make me want to join squad 2 right?

Stick with Squad 1.  We have cats.

Moshi-san, stick with squad 1. Your faults shall be ignored if you deliver an excellent work.

I have never met a Lion who could ignore a fault. They would sooner cut you down than forgive a slight. But at least their sword will sharply cut to the heart of every matter.

I have faults?

>.> news to me

I get the Crazy Company?   :o Poor little Monkey. I'd say leading you might be akin to herding cats, but I don't want to offend the Matsu. I don't want to wake up next to a lion some foggy morning.

Also, I'm sure you're faultless. I refuse to believe any of my Company has faults. We're the best. Hoo-ahh!

I'm perfectly sane!

Says the girl with a boulder on her back.

Yoritomo-sama carries it, not I.

supply troops have to be good for something...

Maybe I should choose my squad through the time honored tradition of eenie meenie minee moe

Of course... what was I thinking?  *facepalm*

I am so in.

... What was that?  Was that my spine?  Did anybody else hear that sound?

That sounded just like when Toki cracks a deer bone to get at the marrow . . .

I'm hoping they have much more discipline when IC.  3 more weeks.

Kinda leaning to squardron 3 atm since 2 has a nikutai and i don't really qualify as heavy infantry Imo

Yeeeesss ... come to the dark side ... I bake cookies!

Cookies, you say?

I shall have to attend your recruitment meeting.

Yay! Cookies!

Yeeessss, the plan is working ...

err, I mean. Cookies! Of course!

Masakaze isn't actually crazy nor does the gunso talk to imaginary people. Why would anyone take ooc silliness seriously? *Shakes head*

I mean, that's just daft. Right Jimmy?

"mmm..delicious cookies, Virendra-san, but, what is this delightful red filling?"

<_<

>_>

Raspberries!


EDIT: I missed it in all the chatter, does Third Squad have a name and/or it's own thread somewhere?

*was already in Squad 3*

Hrm I suppose I will go with squad 3 then.  Though my school calls out for me to join squad 1.  I'm not really heavy infantry material.  Though I can be a nice guard for the command staff or a archer in a pinch.

That is unless the gm's think i fit better in 1

Oh well. Good luck in squad 3. Support eh?

yeah looks that way :p i mean they have cookies after all

who can resist cookies?

Those of us who prefer cake!

cake is all well and good but cookies and pie are better *nods*

Squad 1 is assault team, don't leave Shuichi :(

I thought you were heavy infantry? Otherwise squad 2 can just assault somewhere 2. Hmmm. Right, the line between the two is blurring. I think we should come up with some concrete duties and differences.

Who is first called upon for X task?
Who is better at Y?
Who wouldn't do Z?

It has been suggested that Aoki would be better suited to the Scout company.  Now I'm conflicted as the girls pretty much cover 'shock infantry' quite well, but Aoki herself is better skilled as a scout than front line.  Not that she doesn't enjoy front line work that is.  Any good Lion would.  :D

As I said before, just because we are the "bushi" company that doesn't mean we cannot have scouts, shugenja, courtiers, etc. Don't feel obligated to swap just because your skillset better feels some arbitrary description. Sometimes 1st squad won't have time to talk to 2nd company and get a scout. Having someone who can scout instead in that situation would be useful, no?

Also, unless you can keep your lions away or super quiet I think you'd find scouting a little difficult. Sure, lions can be stealthy but... imagine having to travel overland with them for a day or two to recon something. Lions sleep 20 hours a day usually. They also make lots of noise and only act stealthy when near their prey. Even then though, they aren't exactly the stealthiest cats going. I think you could fit in with the scout company but as you say, shock squad is probably more fitting for you. Plus having an understanding Akodo as a gunso has to be a bonus. Rather than some scout who has zero idea how to use you or even handle your lion "friends".

Well, it all depends, my character is a Tactician and I envision his role would be very akin to assault and outmaneuver the enemy with superior tactic and hardened soldiers. I too believe the line between squad 1 and 2 is very blurred.

Couldn't we simply merge both of the companies and have two Gunso?

Merge the squads you mean? I am not opposed on principle but I don't think that's what Bob wishes. We are meant to each have our own squad. They may well both be assault squads or capable of doing the same thing but they need to be different. Somehow different. It's becoming difficult to figure out how. I think the questions I suggested to frame the differences would be useful. Any ideas?

There can be two squads of heavy if you like.  You can build squads without flavors if you like.  The 'We're all friends' squad.  I don't mind that.  How you put together your squads is up to you guys.  You just have four squads.  You can even abandon one squad if you want.  It will still exist, but just be full of NPCs.  It will kinda suck if someone takes the 4th Gunso position if you do that though.

Ehehehe. NPC gunso! "But i'm not an npc!" Yeah, but your troops are! "Kami damn you guys!!!"

I like that image. I kinda want to do that.

However, I'd prefer just sorting this situation out. Any more concrete suggestions Bob? I have offered many suggestions for things and names and nobody is really discussing them and I hate to just unilaterally declare things >_>

Squad 1 seems like the thick of the fray types. Miki feels like reserves/mobile support. I will fight best when supporting someone else so I don't get hit; I'm a glass cannon that needs to hit high value targets and then move one/protect high value targets with my dueling/damage ability.

I feel like squad 2 should be more battlefield mobile than squad 1, who seem the sort to just stick it in till it's over.

Maybe that's just how I envisioned it. I think squad 2 should be the police/security of the camp in some ways; dealing with any trouble there, and then serving as reserves/command defense during battles?

Does that make any sense? ???

I haven't been really going on consensus.  If someone makes a suggestion, and no one has problems with it, thus doesn't make a post to the contrary, I figure the matter is settled and make the change.  That's not to say the matter cannot be brought back up at anytime before the game starts.

Okay, I think I get it Miki. Like Starship Troopers. We can be the mobile infantry?

Are we talking about the mobile infantry in the book or the movie?

Would you like to know more?

+1 to Aoki

Either really Moshi, was just a name reference thing. I think neither in reality though. Masakaze is too easy going for the MI

but but I wanted a giant robot suit t.t

I envision us as the versatile "does whatever" chill squad. With a small dose of slacking mixed in.

I approve of the "slacking". One has to meditate, enjoy tea and do other important things. Some may call it slacking or spending time idly but if one considers themselves and the void then they are beyond busy... or something, something to justify me taking a nap.

Are you well versed in the chilaxing as well as the procrasilaxing skills?

Oh yes Yosai, though more "training" in those skills would be appreciated. I used to be a sensei of the unwinding-take-a-breather style but... it was too much effort you know?

I've been reading up on the Rokugani version of troop deployment. I think depending on the situation, a Chui warrants an honor guard. I think it serves us all best if that rotates between the squads. Shokami's the sort of fellow who does not want to show favoritism and wants to inspire all his company. Unless you all just want to give the job to NPCs and throw the poor Monkey to the wolves.

There is sadly little on proper military regiments, and those most involve chui>gunso. So due to the lack of information, I'll borrow from my own military experience. So I'm mostly going to be doing the planning, with help from the gunso, while carrying out the orders will be the purview of the rank and file. Though both in and out of character, I'm the type of guy who wants to hear any ideas, no matter the source.

Can I suggest you nab an advisor from the 4th Company? All the Chui seem to be getting them!

*looks around*

I think this is where I'll be reporting for duty.

Now you just have to pick one of the four squads *nods*

If you are primarily a scout you may want to consider the scout company. If you see yourself as more of a direct fighter, then can I interest you in 2nd squad? We have tea and cakes! If you prefer cookies then go for 1st squad. Or Lions. They like their Lions.

We have both Lions and lions in first squad...  Also I thought third squad was where the cookies were at?

Maybe, I get lost. I only care for tea and cake. You can keep your Lions and lions and Kenya. I will dominate the tea routes... *delirious*

Oh, squad 2 is getting an awesome scout by the way! You'll see...

Yes, Third Squad has cookies.

And triple chocolate chunk muffins.

And cinnamon streusel.

And skillet apple pie when I get around to making it.

Oh! And butterscotch donuts!

Sharing with me, Virendra?

I'm sharing with all of 3rd!

^_^

*contemplates kidnapping Virendra*

squad one needs a crab a crab that's an expert at cooking...

I love you!


Kaiu Engineer with CRAFT: COOKING!

*saunters by, throws some fire around the thread*

IT SPREADS!

*uses the distraction to load his jug with ALL OF THE COOKIES and hoofs it on outta there*

If you're an able scout and eager to prove all those Lion tearing up their bellies were wrong, perhaps you'd feel more at home in the Byakko Company. Not that I'm trying to fill our ranks or anything ;D

And with that I say "let them eat cake".

Oh, you want squad 2's cake now eh? Ask nicely! Hmpf *Tsundere mode engaged*

Maybe if it was pie.  Tender flaky crust with just the right amount of crunch to it... no cake can compare.

Stop being Weebl. Down with pie! Up with cake! Rise cake, rise!

... heh

The cake is a lie.

The cake is a lie is a lie.

Cake or death?

I'll have death... I mean cake!

Ohhhhh you're lucky we're Church of England . . . .

/hands over piece of Battenberg

... I'm Episcopalian.

The cheesecake is a pie.

That's one of the goals of my character actually, the improval of organization in the Legion.

Sounds good to me, Akodo-gunso. I enjoy organizing chaos. I don't see myself getting an adviser from North Company, though I certainly won't turn one down if one get offered. I think I'd rather rely on my own company for that sort of thing. I nosed around in the character descriptions, and I think I'll know who to turn to for advice, my Gunso.


 

Hey any Gunso out there who wants a pre-game connection PM me and we can discuss it.

When in town or at the temple I can allow Chui to grab 2 NPC rank 1 characters to act as an honor guard.  This shows the importance of the PC's rank.  When in more dangerous areas, I.E. forests, mountains, ect... I would grab PCs to act as guards or the Chui's team.  This is mostly because I don't want PC to rely on NPCs to save their butts.  I'm adding this to the Military Structure thread.

I am not a Crab!   >:(

Also ... I still have 2 xp to spend ...  *contemplates*

True, but I just didn't think you would relish the idea of being kidnapped and used for cooking among other things...

Of course I could be wrong >.>

SIR! Requesting Permission to Join Squad 2 SIR!

Okay everyone.  I'm going to do something you're probably not going to like, but I think is necessary to fill things out better.  I'm cutting the number of squads in this company from 4 to 3.  That will make sure there are a fair amount of PCs in each and increase the number of Hohei, it will also give more weight to the officers since there will be less of them.  I feel this will benefit the game more.  Thanks!

Edit: 4th squad still exists, it just has NPCs only in it.

Sadness, I wonder why Kaori changed us for Squad 2 :( We're the assault unit and we could have had a scout :(

Made a mistake and confused her with the other spider.  She in Byakko where she belongs now.  She'll be much happier there.

Wait, so it's our squad 2?

Alsi I think Bob puts everyone in Squad one before they Change to another. It's likely just easier that way

My rules are strict, but I will follow them as well! None of you will ever be without my help.

=\

Ok, so what are the break-downs of this company? And why can't I be in the support company?

What is 'Support Company'?  Each company supports itself and each other company.  It's more like each make a piece.  More information here: http://evilbob.fallenash.com/index.php?topic=488.0

Should we lock down the 2nd squad of scout company? They also seem a bit understaffed...

 ::)

I meant squad. Not company.

I think the way we had it (though I never saw it agreed to), was:

First Squad: Heavy
Second Squad: Infantry
Third Squad: Support
Fourth Squad: Cavalry

So with us taking Fourth out of the equation ... what's our Squad line-up now? Do we have a Support Squad now?

Got some scouts on the approval que.  They should have enough to make two good squads.

well technically speaking since Pc's made up the squads duties in the first place they can be changed.  Truly the Legion probably thinks of us as a Company as  "Medium Infantry with a squad of Calvary harassers"  So however we want to do it is fine.  Maybe somethign liek this?

Squad one: Can still be heavy and or assault based troops the aggressive sort I figure

Squad two: Medium and light infantry used to back up and reinforce the movements of Squad one

Squad three: Cav doing general Cav tactics

Squad four: reinforcements?

As for the Support Squad they would be spread about the other Squad's I suppose Tacitcal advisors for the gunso and so forth.

Squad Four should be removed of the equation to be honest... three is a lucky number, four is a number of death.

Anyways, squad one is the one that faces the shitstorm. They are the ones that assault the enemy and with strength and tactical power outmaneuver and rout the enemy. Squad two should be the 'support' on squad one, the reinforcements on the units and the ones that focus more in dueling the enemy.

Agree and disagree here. Squad 1 can be assault but squad 2 aren't your reinforcements or duelists thank you very much. We will be mobile infantry with unique skills and abilities. You can be grunts and heavy troops. We are elites. We aren't your support. We have our own role. I think squad 3 should be cavalry and squad 4 should be the NPC squad. Agreeing with EvilBob here. I ask that all those previously in squad 3 choose squad 1, 2 or 3 based on their expertise and comfort in battle. Squad 2 will probably be safer but only because we will be saving ourselves for the important moments to win all the glory XD

I do agree that squad 4 needs to be gone though.


Awww she would have been plenty happy with me. You stole her from me! *Sobs*


Looking at Shuichi's comment, I think that is very helpful.

I second this suggestion:

Squad one: Can still be heavy and or assault based troops the aggressive sort I figure

Squad two: Medium and light infantry used to back up and reinforce the movements of Squad one

Squad three: Cav doing general Cav tactics

Squad four: reinforcements? (I would suggest we call this the "reserves" squad. It can also be made up of new legionnaires still waiting to be assigned to a Company or receiving training or punishment?)

As for the Support Squad they would be spread about the other Squad's I suppose Tacitcal advisors for the gunso and so forth

So please, if you are squad 3, reassign yourselves to the other 3 squads! Thank you

In all practicality your looking at about 10000 men in the Legion.  probably 6000 in South, 2000 in West, 1500 in East and 500 in North.  There is most likely 6 squads in South when at full strength.  I suppose we consolidated.

I would say only 50-200 max in the shugenja company. They are rare. Like 1 in 10,000 usually. It would be odd to even have that many frankly.

Still I think Hoseki has an excellent suggestion here. We can be far less than 10K total troops to represent casualties suffered and so on. This means squads may have been cut. That makes a lot of sense.

EvilBob, could you consider this please? I think it really works!

I don't think all of the legion is here. A squad is about 30 strong, by the book. A post-Toturi Imperial Legion should be roughly 10 thousand, but that's more akin to what the core book refers to as "army", comprised traditionally by 48 legions (7 to 10 hundred strong). That's why we have a commander (shireikan) and not a general (rikugunshokan). A company (kaisha) is roughly 150-200 men, commanded by a lieutenant (chui). Four to five companies would make up a legion (daibutai), commanded by a captain (taisa), who is dead in our case. Maybe we had another legion with us, under the same commander, but got separated by the snow. Maybe they're all NPCs and staying with us... Evil Bob?

Good thinking Shin, you always improve things <3

Heh, that's why I picked it originally - it seemed the right place for Wake.  But Bob's plans make sense even if he wasn't the GM so Squad 3 it shall be.

Mathematically we are still looking at a lot of units more then are here.  Thus we still have a number of squads we are missing.  I think separated by the snow or lost in the battle are the best choices.

The safest bet would be either to assume the rest were cut off by the snow or that, as per the book, complete legions are rarely fielded at once.

Consider we were positioned somewhere else. The commander received an order to gather a certain number of troops. They might have been rearranged slightly to accommodate the dimension of the force that was ordered to join the Dragon. If instead of a thousand men about six hundred are sent, there's probably no use to send a whole company of scouts, especially considering conventional cavalry could pretty much get stuck to the valleys and never even see fight. I'd go with big chunks of troops being left home, but at the same time, the number of acting officers wasn't reduced so as to avoid active troops having to deal with a change of command. So, there's a big part of our troops stationed somewhere else, off active duty. They're squads that served under Shin, or any other Chui, but as their officers had to leave, are at the moment under command of proxies. Which isn't that big of a deal since they won't be seeing active duty any time soon.

At the same time, the need to get together a force almost a legion strong optimum for the mountain terrain of the Dragon could mean the need to draw men from several legions. That's why we have a commander above the both captains. Now, one captain and his "legion" are cut off by snow, while our "legion" is in this valley together with the commander (who probably traveled with us more often since our captain died). Neither of the legions war anywhere near full strength. Let's say about a third. That's three hundred men. With some casualties, it makes 7-8 squads seem quite okay to me.

As per the 4th Core a Taisa is a commander of Legion now, which means probably a Legion is less troops than before.  That said all your assumptions are true on some level:
1. Not all squads and soldiers wanted to fight with their Taisa at the pass.  He gave those soldiers leave to return with the other.  (You shouldn't consider them cowards, they would have honorable reasons for having to return).
2. Many died in the trap.  The enemy did not just give up without drawing blood.
3. There are other NPC squads.  They are of no concern to the plot.  They are just there.
The Sheirkan decided to stay with your legion after the battle since you had no leadership.  It's his way of honoring Shosuro Igarashi's sacrifice.

I'm going to post this somewhere in the setting section as well.

Your post was helpful - thanks! One question though - if some big battle breaks out (I somehow imagine an army of ghosts or something. I know, I worry too much) - then hopefully the npc squads will be of some use right?

Also, wouldn't the Shereikan needed to have decided to stay with us before the battle since after the battle he and the main army would have been cut off from us? Unless someone magic-d him to us?

Yeah, the Shireikan is a magic man.  His power is over 9,000.

Good point. Case closed.

He put a spell on me~

I've just noticed this:


(http://www.seacats.net/archive/src/129570566556.png)

DON'T. YOU. EVER. STEAL. MY. MODE.

Honestly, I'd be more afraid of this mode:

(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq295/taiyakinonaku/Umineko%20No%20Naku%20Koro%20Ni/Beatrice/28.jpg)

Tsundere? Hawt.

*fwaps Asahi*

That one's not for you can can tell its gender just by looking

Yes but that one is tsundere

Tsundere is my type!

So Mirumoto-san gets all the tsundere's?

I thought they were for everyone...

Nope just the two of you.

Why does she get me at every turn?

Not like I want you to, or anything. Don't misunderstand!

If the Legion wanted you to have a tsundere, they would have issued you one. You can always ask the Quartermaster for one though.

<,<

>.>

A: Misunderstand
B: Misunderstand
C: Put it In
D: Misunderstand

*gasp!* Imma gonna get one!

I have no frakkin idea what a tsundere is.  I'm not sure I want an idea.

That's not a bad thing.

I'm not letting you out before I scar you with it then.

(http://dok0chan.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/tsundere2.jpg?w=450)

*drool*

I hear the prequel is coming soon.  I hope it is good.

Yup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W09u-cyCa-Y)

I still don't get it.  It's some randomly plain anime girl with a Jesus symbol on her chest?

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/yuno-gasai-resized.jpg)

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Mirai_Nikki_7316.jpg)

Since I can't be a Tsundere, I'll undergo personality modification!

Guess which trope I fall into now, Asahi-chan?  ;)

Never seen this one. Sadly, my moving and the jaws of RL no Oni have put a damper on my anime watching. Is it any good?

And Yoritomo-san. It's basically a girl who starts off mean and then cuddles up the more she knows you. That's not exactly it, but it's close enough.

Kuudere?

Fate/stay night was good.

Just as long as Miki doesn't turn into a zombie it's all good...

More accurately, a girl that maims you physically and mentally first and lovingly patches you up later. Only if you've received the protracted beating and condescension with dignity, that is. This particular character I love originates from a VN Fate/Stay Night and seriously I'd recommend that rather than the movies, which are average. UBW disappointed me from reasons one may easily deduce once knowing something about Rin.

No.

Yandere. :-*

Surprisingly sexy. There must be something wrong with me.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_gUijZPz8Ucs/S_-kqmP0XnI/AAAAAAAABAU/_EwhyWa-T7k/Kuroi%20Sakura%20Mascot%203%20V2.gif)

My evil sis?

Can this be my sexy love triangle?

Simply put, no.

To pull out such triangle, you'd need to be a Miya Shirou, adopted from Lion at early age.

And there ought to be actual Yogo Rin of the Tansaku in this game as well.

Hey guys, I don't know who joined what or is joining what and why, what your goals are, ect, ect,  I'm chocking this up to OOC nonsense death.  Please make a new thread for Organizing Suzaku Company!  I'm changing the title of this thread to more accurately reflect it's more carefree direction.

Maaaaybe.

And polling the crowd. For the Topaz championship:

Seppun Shuggie or Self-taught Ronin Shuggie?

I've played Lions. But never a Miya...

Rules question: What is the lvl limit on spells a Shugenja can learn in their starting package?

For your affinity: School Rank + 1
Neutral: School Rank
Deficiency: School Rank - 1

K, thanks!

Type S on the absolute zone are we? Well guess what? SHANA, LOUISE, NARU... etc! There are loads! You do not own that mode! And saying you do makes you more of an ojou-sama. Get off my lawn!

I would prefer to be a gundere but no guns in Rokugan!

Also, finally, you got it right!


The anime is so-so. The game is very good. I can hook you up with it. PM me

I might of got it right but I didn't pick it this time!

That's fine Shuichi. Sometimes it is dangerous and/or bad to pick it. Very...

I'm possessive about my reputation. Your claims to it are recognised as illegitimate. Yield or face a true tsundere-gundere and her machinegun Finnish magic. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdjIRFbaWZE)

Is that like a gendarme?  Reminds me of a limerick.

Not sure Amano-san....  Try laming claim to the title Tsundere and find out?

This should clarify everything. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWr3nT7NLm0&feature=related)

I think that only makes things murkier....

1. Get off our lawn - again :P

2. So far your reputation is nothing like that of a tsundere. So what if you can throw a picture of Rin out? I reject your false claims and empty challenge!

...  ^^'

*sharpens knife*

If they become friends... they might fall in love.

Best kill him off now just to be sure.

Would you be jealous of such a love developing? Oh ho...

And no way. Karoshi is too old. And has a dumb mustache. And smells... not that I smell him, just something Kaori told me >_>

This could prove interesting.....

*looks for teh popcorn*

Here you go.

*holds out extra large bag*

Extremely uninteresting.

...

-reaches for the popcorn... sternly-

Oh thanks Hoseki-san

*starts munching on popcorn and waits for the show to begin*

*blinks*

Why am I waiting for this?!?!  What have you done to my mind?!?!

Only good things.

I'm not so sure about that but i'll take your word on it...

You have inadvertently gained the Bad Fortune (Secret Love) for no exp.

STINKS TO BE YOU.  :-*

I doubt it Miki. I already have bad fortune. Can't take it twice. Erm... nothing... wahahaha... *Hides*

Edit: Also, be careful Miki less you gain the bad fortune "angry superior" *poke*

I dunno if that is so much a bad fortune as Impending Doom Kitsuki-sama...

It is an 8 point disadvantage... or something

8 points is pretty steep....

Same as mamoku or w/e it is called and you said it was impending doom ^_-

Anyhow it is only a joke! :P

I know :p 

and momku isn't impending doom it's just no void....  which is similar as a bushi but not the same.

It would be doom for most of my characters. Need that void!

My last character like never used void :p

Was a short game though. >.>

Oh a completely unrelated topic though... Blarg FML

What makes the magic Finnish?

The magic Rin uses, Gandr, has been mastered by Finnish line of magi, the Edelfelds.

You may check it here (http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Edelfelt#Edelfelt).

As a Finn, I am amused. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Edelfelt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Edelfelt)

Go Lynx Go.  In the spirit of Squad 2 Girl Power.  The Lynx are going to rock it in game 3.

Need to stop being a bad Moshi and cluttering up our no OOC thread with semi OOC

Does it surprise you that your painter was of a family of magi?

It does. ^^;;

Live and learn. ^.^