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OOC Mystery of the Yukigami => General OOC Chat => Topic started by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 07:48:55 PM



Title: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 07:48:55 PM
At evil Bob's Request this is where you request a squad assignment for the Suzaku Company.

If you are a member of the Suzaku Company and have yet to pick your squad please use this as a means of asking questions about the three joinable squads and their leaders.


And please try to keep it OOC Free


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 07:57:21 PM
General squad lay out and tactics and members.  This is by no means a exact measure of what squads do and if any changes are needed feel free to post in the meantime though.


Squad One: Heavy and some medium frontline infantry; assault and defense specialists. The key frontline battle squad, mostly heavy infantry and assault troopers - these men and women are generally the first of the infantry to meet the enemy and are most important in static defense actions due to their durability. Their superior skill at arms, armour and training ensure that they can out perform all other enemies in mass combat, usually after an infantry charge or in the form of a solid wall of strong samurai. Combined with Squad Three, all but the strongest enemies will fold in a direct engagement.

Gunso: Akodo Heisuke
Nikutai: Moshi Shuichi

Squad Two: Medium and light front line infantry; mobile infantry and Specialists. The more mobile of the infantry squads but rarely the direct assault squad. Squad Two can be relied upon to press home an advantage and is used to complement Squad One in various ways, such as spearheading attacks (preferably duel) against key enemy units/officers during a battle, quickly redeploying to weak points in the battle line or performing a holding action while slower elements withdraw. They may occasionally preform flanking maneuvers due to their slightly better maneuverability - but only if the scout Company cannot respond in time or are unavailable.

Gunso: Kistuki MasaKaze
Nikutai: Kakita Miki

Squad Three: Heavy and medium cavalry. Squad Three is primarily responsible for direct mobile assaults on important targets of opportunity or enemy elements that are proving hard to penetrate. They can lead an engagement or be used as a heavy reserve to finish a battle and then run down any remaining enemies. They are particularly useful in flanking actions and are also important in covering a retreat. They are also important in quick response to enemy assaults that may threaten non-frontline elements.

Gunso: Daigatsu Kuroyama
Nikutai: Open


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kakita Hoseki on October 04, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
Squad 2 is also the specialists.  Think duelists who move in groups to catch officers and others of that nature.  Not a scout/harrier unit just the stuff that happens in the middle of battle.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Yoritomo Amano on October 04, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
I was led to believe that Byakko's squad 2 was the flanking unit.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Yoritomo Virendra on October 04, 2011, 08:03:58 PM
According to the list in the Characters section, I'm in Two.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 08:06:24 PM
He moved you there after he changed three to the cav unit and 4 to a npc unit you are still able to choose between squad one or two if you like Virendra.

Three even if you can get a horse O.o

@ Amano I am unsure as to the way the scouts are organized but generally I figured they would join in with squad two for flanking maneuvers if one was necessary


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Evil Bob on October 04, 2011, 08:08:14 PM
South Company is more of a charge forward and take it on the chin group.  I assumed the Calvary here would be heavy cav, while light cav goes over in the scout group.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 08:11:34 PM
okay that makes sense I wasn't sure what the cav squad did myself so I generalized it.

Also switched spelling to the correct one as my friend would say they aren't some hill in Jerusalem after all.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 04, 2011, 09:30:02 PM
So we are finalising squad 2 as specialists, light-medium frontline infantry and... backup? No thanks, remove the backup reference. You can back us up sometimes too. Nobody is anyone's backup. Except the shugenja in the other company perhaps, and the scouts. We are all frontline squads. Two is just more mobile than One. May I propose:

Squad One: Heavy and some medium frontline infantry; assault and defence specialists. The key frontline battle squad, mostly heavy infantry and assault troopers - these men and women are generally the first of the infantry to meet the enemy and are most important in static defence actions due to their durability. Their superior skill at arms, armour and training ensure that they can out perform all other enemies in mass combat, usually after an infantry charge or in the form of a solid wall of strong samurai. Combined with Squad Three, all but the strongest enemies will fold in a direct engagement.

Gunso: Akodo Heisuke
Nikutai: Moshi Shuichi

Squad Two: Medium and light frontline infantry; mobile infantry and Specialists. The more mobile of the infantry squads but rarely the direct assault squad. Squad Two can be relied upon to press home an advantage and is used to complement Squad One in various ways, such as spearheading attacks (preferably duel) against key enemy units/officers during a battle, quickly redeploying to weak points in the battle line or performing a holding action while slower elements withdraw. They may occasionally preform flanking maneuvers due to their slightly better maneouverability - but only if the scout Company cannot respond in time or are unavailable.

Gunso: Kistuki MasaKaze
Nikutai: Kakita Miki

Squad Three: Heavy and medium cavalry. Squad Three is primarily responsible for direct mobile assaults on important targets of opportunity or enemy elements that are proving hard to penetrate. They can lead an engagement or be used as a heavy reserve to finish a battle and then run down any remaining enemies. They are particuarly useful in flanking actions and are also important in covering a retreat. They are also important in quick response to enemy assaults that may threaten non-frontline elements.

Gunso: Daigatsu Kuroyama
Nikutai: Open


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Yoritomo Amano on October 04, 2011, 09:33:43 PM
Yeah, go ahead and call us 'backup'.  Then watch as your recon reports become less and less detailed.  >:O


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kakita Hoseki on October 04, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
Yeah, go ahead and call us 'backup'.  Then watch as your recon reports become less and less detailed.  >:O

Your only back up in the battle.  After all you don't want to lead the charge do you?  You just tell us where to charge.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 04, 2011, 10:17:31 PM
Yeah, go ahead and call us 'backup'.  Then watch as your recon reports become less and less detailed.  >:O

That's fine. We can kick your ass anytime. Your recon should have told you that

Anyhow, let's keep this thread a bit more structured and less OOC. Do the cavalry people have anything to add/edit/etc?


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Seppun Shin on October 04, 2011, 10:19:26 PM
You kids start picking up fights and I'll have you rinsing rice for the rest of the winter.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 04, 2011, 10:32:31 PM
You kids start picking up fights and I'll have you rinsing rice for the rest of the winter.

Ahaha charming but you have no command over me Chui-sama. Also, again, please keep this ooc stuff to a minimum here. We'd like to properly discuss what the squads do and then have people apply for each if they so wish


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 10:35:20 PM
I didn't say that you were back up unit's I meant you back up squad one's actions >.> we charge forward and engage their front line you move through us to duel their leaders and etc and so forth...  it was there to mean you don't usually take the brunt of a charge or often lead the charge.  There can after all only be one front line <,<   *teases slightly*

but back on topic i'll adjust the posts i was just meaning to keep em short and informative without too much fluff in em, to make for quicker reading but expanding is not bad.


this way it keeps the relevant information fairly high up on page one.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 04, 2011, 10:39:04 PM
I didn't say that you were back up unit's I meant you back up squad one's actions >.> we charge forward and engage their front line you move through us to duel their leaders and etc and so forth...  it was there to mean you don't usually take the brunt of a charge or often lead the charge.  There can after all only be one front line <,<   *teases slightly*

The front line being only 1/2 of two squads of one company of a legion is a little dumb. The front line, infantry wise, would be both. Possibly with some scouts added in. It would also include the third squad if you include cavalry. The frontline = 1st company, not 1st squad of 1st company. I don't mind you teasing but it isn't like Squad 1 is so big and hard that it can hold an enemy legion at bay by itself while squad 1 just duels a few leaders and the others "help a bit". You need us as much as we need you. We all hold off the enemy. The difference is squad 1 is at the centre and they are the lynchpin. Not they are the centre and everything else. We stand together


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Yoritomo Amano on October 04, 2011, 10:43:36 PM
That's fine. We can kick your ass anytime. Your recon should have told you that
I could take you.  I'm only in Byakko because I don't really fit in the regimented fighting formations.  ;)


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 04, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
That's fine. We can kick your ass anytime. Your recon should have told you that
I could take you.  I'm only in Byakko because I don't really fit in the regimented fighting formations.  ;)
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Great. Do come and try. I will look forward to actually showing you how to wield fire. Joke over now - Again, let's keep this thread actually useful Amano. Don't make me start nagging

I too want this thread to actually resolve things and be useful. If you want to start a joke "yo mamma" thread, do so. Let's leave it out of here from now on


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 11:02:12 PM
well we are fairly understaffed  and in a proper legion company we would all probably serve the same purpose (heavy Infantry, Light Infantry anyways not have so many specialized squads >.>   You generally don't mix companies to that degree.  In this case though with only 4 squads in the company and everyone being different in use we will have over lap and yes you would participate in front line combat we simply don't have the numbers to allow for otherwise.  I did not mean squad one act's alone.

What I see when I see us in battle formation as as legion is generally speaking the heavy infantry forming the center that which will charge the enemies center or receive said charge The specialists holding the flanks or is used for flank charges and other things.  You are maneuverable and lighter armored we don't want to waste your talents standing in big blocks and the like.  Of course I could have it all wrong O.o

What I see our normal legion lay out as most Rokugani legions consist of 6 companies 7 counting the reserve/support legion

2 Companies Heavy Infantry
1 Company Medium/Specialist Infantry
1 Company Cavalry
1 Company Scouts
1 Company Shujenga
1 Reserve/Support Company

add in the fact a traditional company has 7 squads and my ideas might make more sense.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 04, 2011, 11:09:23 PM
Aye, they do. But ours is undermanned due to losses and some elements being left behind rather than go on this mission while others still have become lost. So our 7 squads has become 4.

I think Squad 1 would be the remnants of the heavy infantry as you say but now, due to lack of numbers, we also support the centre. I think generally you are right that we would be best on the flanks while a support squad plugged gaps in the lines but we do not have that luxury. It is possible some heavy infantry are in squad 2 and some light are in squad 1 just to replace losses - and these members are undergoing retraining. However, that would complicate things.

Can we just agree that this whole company is frontline in various capacities but squad one is solid frontline and squad 2 is mobile frontline and squad 3 is super mobile frontline while squad 4 is reinforcements for the frontline!


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 04, 2011, 11:14:51 PM
Sure thing.  I was just looking at the big picture and what your task in the army would usually be as compared to the place it is now with our severely decimated numbers.  Probably why we had the point on contention in the first place as we have a whole lots of remnants of a legion :p

But yeah Front Line for all until we get reinforced or torn apart and fed to other legions....

Lets hope for reinforced.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 05, 2011, 12:29:48 AM
Sure thing.  I was just looking at the big picture and what your task in the army would usually be as compared to the place it is now with our severely decimated numbers.  Probably why we had the point on contention in the first place as we have a whole lots of remnants of a legion :p

But yeah Front Line for all until we get reinforced or torn apart and fed to other legions....

Lets hope for reinforced.

Agreed. And as far as I know, Heisuke only came to be a gunso near the end of the fighting - the same as Masakaze. Therefore we are both gunso of new/reformed squads. We are therefore likely to be just as confused IC about our rolls and exact duties as we are OOC. It is something that needs to be ironed out. It would be nice if our Chui offered some commands!


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kakita Miki on October 05, 2011, 05:58:52 AM
I'm not as worried about it; when a battle happens, I'll stand behind the dragon and kill all the people who try to stab it in the back.

Simple.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Toku Shokami on October 06, 2011, 09:13:32 AM
What I am thinking is that due to the losses we have suffered, and the consolidation of the squads, the Chui would have simply let the Gunso choose their strongest tactic, and form a squad based on their tactical ideas. In order to keep things less argumentative, I think this is the best way. If Akodo-gunso wants heavy infantry that act as paragons, and are minimalists, then I'll trust his leadership. If Kituki-gunso wants a harrier/mobile infantry/troubleshooters than I'll trust its leadership. I think it's best for "reserve squad" to be 4th. They're NPCs and it just seems better that way.

On a side note, I must confess a Spider leading the Calvary seems like an awesome story.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Akodo Heisuke on October 06, 2011, 09:19:59 AM
I'm not against Shugenjas in my company, I just expect them to fare as well in mundane combat as in casting spells. We can't be one man down just because Shugenja get's silenced.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kakita Miki on October 06, 2011, 10:40:11 AM
Squadron 2: Cheerleader division.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 06, 2011, 05:42:27 PM
Squadron? Squad! And how are we cheerleaders? I like troubleshooters...


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 06, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
Squadron? Squad! And how are we cheerleaders? I like troubleshooters...

We are all girls ATM. And gender neutral.

We can motivate everyone with our cutting Haiku and interpretive dance!

That's true. Masakaze does have a few ranks in poetry. I wouldn't say Masakaze is gender neutral. Just gender hide. Anyhow, all girls squad seems fun. I like. Girl power! Also makes perfect sense given Masakaze's fears and backstory... heh...


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 06, 2011, 09:20:38 PM
I'm not sure if it is funny. I don't want to ruin what will probably be an obvious reveal anyway but I will say this - look at the officers in this Legion. What sex are they mostly? Wouldn't some think the wreaks of inequality?


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kakita Hoseki on October 06, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
*Smiles* Now you get Masakaze a bit better. It would definately be pushed by them. So far the gunso has promoted another Kakita afterall. Equalising the officer playing field is an aim of theirs

So I think we need a Squad only forum for planning.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 06, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
I thought we were supposed to be plotting against the other companies not the other squads in our companies...

Really though while squad forums might be nice I dunno if the gm's would want to clutter the board to that degree.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 07, 2011, 12:16:38 AM
*Smiles* Now you get Masakaze a bit better. It would definately be pushed by them. So far the gunso has promoted another Kakita afterall. Equalising the officer playing field is an aim of theirs

So I think we need a Squad only forum for planning.

We are plotting against the other companies as part of one of the key story ideas of this game, yes. However, I think it isn't so bad for each squad to have their own little agenda.

I therefore like your idea Hoseki. I would be more willing to share certain ideas with my squad... *innocent smile*


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 07, 2011, 12:21:08 AM
Squad two obviously thinks too much for bushi...

Join Squad One we have less thinking and more Killing


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kitsuki Masakaze on October 07, 2011, 01:38:20 AM
Join Squad Two,  We can Capitalize any word in a sentence we Desire!

Can we? That's awesome. I don't recall using this power though.

Anyhow, back on topic. I think our roles are set now. Can one of the cavalry people add some input please?


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Hlaoroo on October 07, 2011, 01:41:19 AM
Join Squad Two,  We can Capitalize any word in a sentence we Desire!

Capitalizing 'desire' might not be the best idea. You don't want to attract that attention. Look what happened to the Snake.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moshi Shuichi on October 07, 2011, 02:05:53 AM
Good Point >.>

Good thing the Dragon didn't see my clever ruse to lead Squad Two into Sin <,<

But yes back on topic any input form the actual cav would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Moto Wake on October 07, 2011, 04:20:10 AM
I'm not sure there's much more input to give other than 'Hi, we're Cav.' :P  It makes sense for the Cavalry to be its own squad tactics wise as mixing infantry and cavalry under the same orders just gets messy when it comes to matching pace, etc. 

Wake's personal tactic is simply CHARGE (unless ordered otherwise).


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Kakita Hoseki on October 07, 2011, 06:55:38 AM
I'm not sure there's much more input to give other than 'Hi, we're Cav.' :P  It makes sense for the Cavalry to be its own squad tactics wise as mixing infantry and cavalry under the same orders just gets messy when it comes to matching pace, etc. 

Wake's personal tactic is simply CHARGE (unless ordered otherwise).

So he's thinking Heavy Cav.  Lots of direct combat with other cavalry less flanking.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Evil Bob on October 07, 2011, 09:55:50 AM
Did some cleaning on this topic.  Lets stay on topic and keep the jokes to a minimum.


Title: Re: Suzaku Company Squad Information
Post by: Toku Shokami on October 07, 2011, 03:02:39 PM
Okay. I've been making rules and regulations. I will want to speak with each Gunso personally, through PM or through Skype.

I wanted you all to get ideas about what you wanted before I stepped in. Now that it happened, I'll be adding stuff on a Company wide.  I will be posting in the General Quarters area and going to give everybody hopefully clearer ideas of what is expected of the Company. You all seem to have set ideas for what you want, and in the case of Gunso, what your squads will look like. If anyone has any questions, please PM me. Since there is little flavor for military standard operational procedures, I'm borrowing from my military past.